Choose 1 of the following prompts and write a post using EVIDENCE from the chapter.
(1) Reread the paragraph near the end of Chapter V that begins with “As I went over to say good-by. . . .” What elements in this paragraph indicate that the American Dream, or at least Gatsby’s dream, is flawed?
(2) A saddening scene takes place near the end of Chapter VI when Tom Buchanan and his friends ride on horseback over to Gatsby’s. Describe the scene in detail, and assert what disheartening thing Fitzgerald is trying to show in it.
(3) What does Nick see as he looks at the party “through Daisy’s
eyes,” and what conclusions does he come to by doing this? How does her reaction influence your opinion of her? Why do you think she reacts this way?
question 1: The elements of this paragraph that show Gatsby's is flawed because he is stuck in the past and the fact that he stil wants to marry Daisy and he cannot just deal with the facts that Daisy is married and is not gonna divorce Daisy to go and marry Gatsby
ReplyDelete1) At the end of Chapter V, it shows how Gatsby's dream is flawed. Gatsby has been obsessing about Daisy for five years now and now that they are finally reunited, he is a little disappointed. He had such high expectations but, "there must have been moments even that afternoon when Daisy tumbled short of his dreams" (Fitzgerald 95). Since Gatsby has been so infatuated with Daisy for this long, his expectations are high and when his dream actually does come true he's a little disappointed because she is different.
ReplyDeleteNice language! I really like your response and we both have the same opinion about Gatsby's dream being flawed. I really like your response.
DeleteDear Bailey,
DeleteI really like your response to this question and think that all of the details you gave were very good. I also used the same quote and think that it makes a very good point.
I love your response to the first question, Bailey! I think another question that you could probably answer is, do you think Daisy's expectations of Gatsby was high throughout the time they haven't seen each other? Did that kill Daisy's dream?
DeleteDear Bailey,
DeleteI agree with your answer to the first question!! We both have the same opinion on Gatsby's flawed dream because Daisy just isnt what he made her out to be. Good job!
Logan
Gatsby's dream is flawed because he pours his heart and soul into it and it doesn't meet his expectations. Nick says that "Daisy tumbled short of his dreams.. because of the colossal vitality of his illusion"(Fitzgerald 95). This shows that He has been dreaming of this moment when he gets to meet her for so long, "almost five years!"(Fitzgerald 95), and then when it finally happened, he was disappointed.
ReplyDeleteI used part of the same quote, it fits well to answer this question. We had pretty much the same opinion on it.
DeleteThe next question is can we blame Gatsby? Could anyone help but build up colossal expectations after five years of longing? Gatsby required this perfect vision which acted as the fire under his belly to pursue his fairy tale.
Delete(1) Reread the paragraph near the end of Chapter V that begins with “As I went over to say good-by. . . .” What elements in this paragraph indicate that the American Dream, or at least Gatsby’s dream, is flawed?
ReplyDeleteThis paragraph from "The Great Gatsby" shows that the american dream is flawed, because Gatsby built up his dream to be with Daisy for five years, but once Daisy is with Gatsby, they find that it's not as great as they thought it'd be, and daisy tumbled short of his dreams meaning Daisy didn't stand up to Gatsby's expectations.
I used the quote that Daisy had fallen short of what he thought they would have had together
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ReplyDeleteIn this paragraph Gatsby's dream is flawed because he sets his dreams higher and higher every time he sees Daisy. Daisy could never be good enough for Gatsby because "no amount of fire or freshness can challenge what a man will store up in his ghostly heart"(F. Scott 96). Even if Daisy was the prettiest girl in the world, eventually he would expect more out of her.
ReplyDeleteFitzgerald tried to relay that Gatsby's dream, because of the years and distance between him and Daisy, was very flawed. He spent all this money, the house, the ridiculous clothing, and the ridiculous parties, just in hopes that Daisy would appreciate it once they were reunited. However, Daisy "tumbled short of his dreams... because of the colossal vitality of his illusion" (Fitzgerald 95). His expectations were so high because he was still reveling in the Daisy that was five years ago, not the Daisy that was sophisticated and married to Tom Buchanan.
ReplyDeleteq1: Gatsby's dream is flawed because of its reliance on Daisy. The very idea of Daisy has been tantalizing Gatsby for five years and this fact has forced unrealistic expectations upon the golden girl. This is similar to how the people in the valley of ashes perceive the American Dream because they all thought there was money to be had and opportunities to take; however, they soon realized that this dream is not anything like how it is portrayed. Gatsby is left with this longing for a perfect existence with Daisy and at no fault of her own she fails to deliver.
ReplyDeleteDear Colin, I like the tone of your voice in this paragraph. You use words that really nail exactly how Gatsby's dream is flawed. I also like how you connect it to people in the Valley of Ashes. Fabulous job :)
DeleteHello Colin,
DeleteI wrote the same thing that Gatsby has "unrealistic expectations" for Daisy. Also, your connection to the Valley of Ashes is very good and shows that you understand this book.
~ Landon Bellmay
Gatsby has very high standards. He has everything that other people want. He has a mansion, money and every knick knack that people crave. All his life he’s been wanting Daisy to complete his happiness. He thought that’s what was missing from his life to fulfill his happiness. His faced filled with “bewilderment” (Fitzgerald 95). He’s confused on why he’s not over ecstatic with joy. He doubted his “quality of his present happiness” (Fitzgerald 95). Gatsby thought that he was never going to be happy since Daisy “tumbled short of his dreams” (Fitzgerald 95). Gatsby spent almost five years preparing himself and throwing himself “into it with a creative passion, adding to it all the time, decking it out with every bright feather that drifted his way” (Fitzgerald 95). He was expecting a lot from this moment of meeting Daisy again after five years but “no amount of fire or freshness can challenge what a man will store up in his ghostly heart” (Fitzgerald 95). Gatsby is realizing that Daisy can’t complete his happiness. His “American Dream” is very flawed because he has everything he’s possibly have wanted in his life, everything other’s envy him over, but yet he’s not happy.
ReplyDeleteGreetings Morg :-)
DeleteI like the way you used words from the text like "bewilderment" which shows Gatsby's confusion.
nice work xoxo
good job
DeleteDear Morgan,
DeleteYou did a great job of using quotes from the paragraph to portray Gatsby's dream and how he feels. Nice work!!
Love Malia
(1) Reread the paragraph near the end of Chapter V that begins with “As I went over to say good-by. . . .” What elements in this paragraph indicate that the American Dream, or at least Gatsby’s dream, is flawed?
ReplyDeleteIt was just saying how his happiness is sort of an illusion, and it isn't real. "The colossal vitality of his illusion", it's sort of just saying that he's happy, but what he's happy about isn't really real. He can't have Daisy. Just like a lot of people can't have freedom. And that's the American Dream. And illusion.
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Delete1. The elements in this paragraph indicate that the American Dream and Gatsby's dream are not what they are all cracked up to be. Gatsby is bewildered because he doesn't understand why he isn't happy. Gatsby is fulfilling the American Dream by being rich and working hard, he even has the woman of his dreams but he doubts the quality of his happiness. "He had thrown himself into it with a creative passion" which made the realization of his dream fall short (Fitzgerald 101). His expectations were so high that no one can meet his standards, he set himself up for disappointment.
ReplyDelete(1) Reread the paragraph near the end of Chapter V that begins with “As I went over to say good-by. . . .” What elements in this paragraph indicate that the American Dream, or at least Gatsby’s dream, is flawed?
ReplyDeleteThis paragraph indicates that Gatsby did all this work to get his dream of being with Daisy, but once he got it, it wasn't as great as he had hoped. This seems to be like the American dream. Everyone wants the dream of having kids, a good career and nice things, but it's not always how it's hyped up to be.
I like how you explained that having everything you think you want and making it seem so great, turns out to not be as great as you thought.
Delete3) Nick sees the party through Daisy's eyes by explaining how "she was appalled by West Egg" (Fitzgerald 107) and was offended by all of the people there at the party. Since she is used to being around proper people because she is a part of the "old" money community, she is disgusted by the way the "new" money community acts and parties. This made my opinion of her change drastically since the beginning of the novel. Now, I think she is snobby and far from a perfect match with Gatsby.
ReplyDeleteThe end of this chapter shows that even though Gatsby has been planning this meeting with Daisy for "almost 5 years"(Fitzgerald95). He feels as though Daisy isn't as good as he has thought she'd be. It was "not through her own fault, but because of the colossal vitality of his illusion"(Fitzgerald95). Meaning he had built up the image and moment they would meet. "It had gone beyond her, beyond everything"(Fitzgerald95) reasonable and possible.
ReplyDeleteI liked the reasoning behind your response, but I personally think that you used too many quotes in your response. You didn't really focus on the question, you just kinda paraphrased what what happening at that point in time.
Delete.Gatsby spent his years away from Daisy imagining the day they’d meet, playing the scene through his head over and over every day, each time adding elements to it that heightened his fantasy to meet her again. Gatsby and Daisy were experiencing each other for the first time in five years, Nick speculates, “There must have been moments even that afternoon when Daisy tumbled short of his dreams—not through her own fault but because of the big expectation of his vision. It had gone beyond her, beyond everything.” (95) No reality could ever live up to what Gatsby dreamed this day would be.
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Deletegood job John i like your quote and i completely agree with you
DeleteGatsby’s dream was flawed because his standards are too high. I know this because “Daisy tumbled short of his dreams” (Fitzgerald 95). This shows that nobody will ever meet Gatsby’s standards. He was expecting that Daisy would live up to what he expected but she didn't.
ReplyDeleteTom and two others show up to Gatsby's on horseback and the lady gets drunk and invites Gatsby to diner but nick realizes that she was being sarcastic and didn't really what them there.Gatsby wants to be a part of the old money but he doesn't understand there way. They left Gatsby at his house.
ReplyDeleteQuestion 1) This paragraph indicates that the American Dream is flawed in a way of Gatsby's feelings toward Daisy's visit. In a way Daisy is the personification of the American Dream. Gatsby built up the meeting with Daisy so much that he must have felt a little disappointment at some point. The American Dream is like this because many people looking to achieve the American Dream get what they wanted, however many are not happy with it afterwards.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you this happens a lot in real life to everybody not just the people in the book.
DeleteHi Kaitlyn! Great job determining how Gatsby's dream is crushed, I agree with you when you say many people aren't happy with the outcome afterwards because that is true which they try and change then they don't succeed. Overall good job
DeleteAt the end of chapter 5 you begin to see how Gatsby's "dream" seems to be flawed. For 5 years straight Gatsby has been dreaming of Daisy every night and now that they are together he isn't as happy as he thought he would be. In his head he built her up to be such a perfect thing that would make him happy but he is disappointed to find out that he is not as happy as he thought he would be “There must have been moments even that afternoon when Daisy tumbled short of his dreams—not through her own fault but because of the big expectation of his vision. It had gone beyond her, beyond everything.” (95) Gatsby is never going to be satisfied with Daisy because she can never be what he built her up to be.
ReplyDelete1)Gatsby's dream is flawed because he thought that all he needed was Daisy but he wanted her so much that its not as great as he wanted it to be. Nick says that "Daisy tumbled short of his dreams.. because of the colossal vitality of his illusion"(Fitzgerald 95). This is because he looks "bewildered" because he has realized that his dream is not as great now that it has come true. That is why I think his dream is flawed.
ReplyDeleteI like how your response has an intro, a body, and a conclusion, it makes your response much easier to read and understand.
DeleteI agree with the way you interpreted Gatsby's flawed dream. I also like the wuote that you used; it's blended well.
Delete1) Chapter 5, shows how Gatsby's dream is flawed. Gatsby has been in love with Daisy for 5 years at this point and when he is finally reunited with her he expects things to instantly return to the old ways, but life doesnt work like that, and so he is dissopointed. He had such high expectations but, "there must have been moments even that afternoon when Daisy tumbled short of his dreams" (Fitzgerald 95). because Gatsby has been in love with Daisy for this long, he has expected her to be probably much better than she actually was, wether it shows or not.
ReplyDeleteI agree that he wanted it to go back to the way it was and how you say that that doesn't usually happen. I also think that it does show that Gatsby is upset.
Delete1. Gatsby dreams was so flawed because he put daisy on such a high pedestal and she couldn't live up to his dreams “Daisy tumbled short of his dreams” (95). It was as if at one moment Gatsby realize that almost no one will ever live up to his expectations of them.
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ReplyDeleteI really like the quote you used for this response, it shows exactly how Gatsby is feeling. This is very straight forward but still shows all you need!
DeleteI agree that he built up being with Daisy in his head that he failed to meet his dream.
DeleteThis is what I had said in my response. I like the quote that was used and I agree with your point. He built it up so much in his head that it could never compare.
Delete1) At the end of chapter 5 Gatsby's dream is flawed. I say this because he wishes he could have daisy but is bummed because she is married. "No amount of fire or freshness can challenge what a man will store up in his ghostly heart." (Fitzgerald 101) Gatsby has all these feelings and trout built up about Daisy but can't tell her because she is now married and won't divorce Tom for him. So Gatsby's dream is flawed because the dream of being with Daisy is now crushed
ReplyDelete(3) What does Nick see as he looks at the party “through Daisy’s eyes,” and what conclusions does he come to by doing this? How does her reaction influence your opinion of her? Why do you think she reacts this way?
ReplyDeleteNick is starting to see how new money acts when it comes to spending there money. He knows how daisy is old money and she is disported to see how new money acting this way. " But the rest offended her- and inarguable, because it wasn't a gesture bet an emotion. She was appalled by west egg. (pg 113)
Tom and another man, along with a woman, show up to Gatsby's mansion on their horses. The woman drank a bit too much, and decides to invite Gatsby to a dinner party, but the man she was with kept making excuses as to why he shouldn't come. When Gatsby finally goes inside to get a hat and jacket, they already had left him behind, so he wouldn't be able to go. Fitzgerald is trying to show how Gatsby desperately wants to be old money, and he tries to act like it, but none of the people who are actually old money respect him at all. They didn't want to associate with him, so they purposely left him behind. Mr.Sloane says to Nick, "Tell him we couldn't wait, will you?" even though in reality they could have, they just didn't want to.
ReplyDeleteThe elements in this paragraph indicated that the American Dream, or at least Gatsby’s dream, is flawed by how his expectations of daisy where flawed. He thought she was the best person ever and all he wanted was her but she wasn't like he thought she was. "Daisy tumbled short of his dreams- not through her own fault but because of the collosal vitiality of his illusion. Some people think when you get something you really want you will be happy for a long time. But you really come to find out that you will always want more or better.
ReplyDelete1. This paragraph shows that Gatsby's dream is flawed because he had built his dream up so big that it could not live up to his expectations. He had waited for so long but as nick described his face he said that Gatsby looked "as though a faint doubt had occurred to him as to the quality of his present happiness". He didn't know if this was what was really supposed to make him happy or if this was what he wanted. Gatsby, just like many other people make up a dream that they work for and then once that have it it's not as good as they imagined. They dream of more and more for themselves so they just keep wanting more and are never truly happy.
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ReplyDelete(1) Reread the paragraph near the end of Chapter V that begins with “As I went over to say good-by. . . .” What elements in this paragraph indicate that the American Dream, or at least Gatsby’s dream, is flawed?
ReplyDeleteQuestion 1- The reality of Gatsbys dream is that he thinks of it as too little now. Its not as great as it seems to him because he is too self centered and he clearly believes no one is as good as him. Considering "Daisy tumbled short of dreams", this is because he doesnt think shes good enough anymore, and he will never think anyone is.
The quote i put was on page 101
Delete1) At the end of chapter 5, it shows that Gatsby dream is flawed. In the chapter it says "No amount of fire or freshness can challenge what a man will store up in his ghostly heart." (Fitzgerald 101) This goes to show that Gatsby built up a dream of how his relationship with Daisy would be and how perfect everything would be, and because his expectations were so high, he was left disappointed. It also says "Daisy tumbled short of his dreams." (Fitzgerald 95) He made her out to be the perfect person, and she couldn't live up to his standards that he had for her.
ReplyDeleteGreat job Angela! i agree with you 100%. Gatsby has too high of standards and will probably end up alone.
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ReplyDeleteThis paragraph shows how Gatsby's dream is flawed because has been built up for so long his expectations are too high and delusional. He has been thinking and imaging how great she is for almost 5 years so expects a perfect and imaginary version of Daisy.
This paragraph shows that Gatsby's dream of Daisy was greater and much better than the reality of what their relationship is. In the paragraph it says "No amount of fire or freshness can challenge what a man will store up in his ghostly heart."(Fitzgerald 101) This means that Gatsby had built up being with Daisy and in his head he made it so great that their actual relationship could never compare to what he had in his head.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, he definitely built up the moment with Gatsby to be more than it turned out to be and he was disappointed!
DeleteThe paragraph at the end of chapter five indicates that the American Dream, or at least Gatsby's dream, is flawed because over the past five years he's built up the moment when he finally saw Daisy again and when it finally happened it wasn't all he made it out to be. "There must have been moments even that afternoon when Daisy tumbled short of his dreams- not through her own fault but because of the colossal vitality of his illusion." (101) Gatsby's dream, just like everyone else's is flawed because they get their hopes up and when things don't go just as they planned, they get upset or disappointed.
ReplyDeleteQuestion 1 relates to how Gatsby feels when he sees Daisy. For example he has built up an immense feeling to see her once again. For example Gatsby is reaching for the green light. However when he finally meets her she does not seem all that wonderful as he remembered. Gatsby appears "pale as death, with his hands plunged like weights in his coat pockets." (Fitzgerald 91) As you can see Gatsby's dream is flawed because he was expecting a perfect Daisy but he thought she was not as good as he originally thought.
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